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Well, at least it worked in his time travel sleeping beauty rippoff.

Of course, it only worked there because the central tenant of Sleeping Beauty is that you own the princess if you kill a giant monster and then rape her while she's in a coma.

Talk of marriage in OSC novels reminds me of Magic Street. The main character had to sleep with Titania as step one in a plan to save the world, and he insisted on driving downtown and convincing a priest that he was actually older than his birth certificate said in order to get married to her first. This was despite the limited amount of time remaining to save the world and Titania's insistence that it really didn't matter, but apparently according to OSC paragon of virtue implies no premarital sex even to prevent the enslavement of the entire human race. Other than that it was a pretty good book.

FrankTrollman wrote:That's actually a central tenet of Mormonism, OSC's faith. People are supposed to get married because they are magically and instantaneously meant to be together, not because they have any pesky "relationship" shit going on. In the Twilight saga, Jacob falls instantly in love with a newborn baby, because whether you were meant to be together has nothing at all to do with whether it's creepy as hell.

Mormon love is so fucking weird that when Mormons write about love in fiction, it just looks like a plot hole to everyone else.

-Username17

It's not a tenet. It's culture. And what you're seeing is immature love. Fairy tale, love-at-first-sight stuff. Mormons aren't the only people who have it.

Mormons do, however, particularly fall for it because the church is absolute shit at teaching people how to have relationships. First you grow up, then you go on a mission, then you start college, and... By that time, you're supposed to be married. If you're super awesome, you're married to the person you met in high school who stuck with you while you were on your mission. There's no getting to know yourself, let alone getting to know the other person.

The fact that it's stupid - we both agree on that.

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Mask_De_H wrote:

Kaelik wrote: Is the book good? No. Why would it be. The book only exists because of how long, fervent, and detailed the jacking off to Ender's genius is. You can't do that in a movie. The End.

Yeah, Ender's Game is fucking horrible for all the reasons in this thread and more. Whitewashing the movie takes the story from "offensively shit" to "shit".

Also, welcome back, uber. Where you been?

Mask, if you are going to misquote me to something completely different, make it clear that is what you are doing.

Sorry about that, I didn't want to seem too snippy with a "fixed" and the misquote seemed obvious enough.

rampaging-poet wrote:Talk of marriage in OSC novels reminds me of Magic Street. The main character had to sleep with Titania as step one in a plan to save the world, and he insisted on driving downtown and convincing a priest that he was actually older than his birth certificate said in order to get married to her first. This was despite the limited amount of time remaining to save the world and Titania's insistence that it really didn't matter, but apparently according to OSC paragon of virtue implies no premarital sex even to prevent the enslavement of the entire human race. Other than that it was a pretty good book.

While Card is DOING IT RONG, I actually think marriage as a means toward saving the world (or whatever) makes more sense and is way less stupid/offensive than sex. Because marriage is a magic ritual, and sex is an [NSFW] arbitrary spatial relation [/NSFW].

Virus-talking aliens. Seriously.

So I finally got around to watching this movie because I saw a link to it streaming. Thank god I didn't spend money on this. Kaelik is right. They go from assigning him dragon army DIRECTLY into the final 2v1 battle in less than five minutes. "Here's your army; final battle."

That is even worse than the fact that Bean is in his launch. I paused it half way in just to post in this thread about how awful that is.

Edit 1: Oh god the shower fight was the most underwhelming thing ever. "I could break your arm" *releases* Kicks him and Bonzo instantly dies by hitting his head. Fucking hell. No intensity at all.

Edit 2: Changing where the queen cocoon is located and the fact that valentine comes with him for literally no reason. What the fuck. Changing those facts adds nothing to the story, and fucks with continuity hard. Final battle was... ok. Saying that the little doctor was "one ship per battle, long recharge" instead of just "it's short range compared to ICBM nukes" is also stupid.

Everything that got changed did nothing to help the story (compare to, Watchmen where changing the ending actually made more sense than the original).

Like, I can get that you don't want to have six year olds murdering each other on screen. Shifting the ages forward makes sense and even with the older actor the child actors still fucking sucked at acting out those characters.

But fucking fuckity fuck, how could you pronounce Bonzo wrong. They make a big fucking deal about how it is pronounced in the book. Fucking fuck.

Making Bernard be one of the five people at command school? I get that you don't want to hire another actor, but Bernard was a one scene character. You fucking fucks.